Comments on: The Beginning Of The End For Oakland http://www.eastbayconservative.com/2009/06/09/the-beginning-of-the-end-for-oakland/ Words from a Non-Leftist Thu, 08 Dec 2011 03:54:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: mry http://www.eastbayconservative.com/2009/06/09/the-beginning-of-the-end-for-oakland/comment-page-1/#comment-2801 mry Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:40:53 +0000 http://www.eastbayconservative.com/2009/06/09/the-beginning-of-the-end-for-oakland/#comment-2801 Reverend Whitcomb, well said!!!! I think the author of this article is misinformed about them being the highest paid. Also, good luck to the quality of candidates you would get with drastically cutting their pay. Why are you not more up in arms about the crooks that are running this city into the ground??? Oops I meant politicians. Also get ready to watch them pay out Debra Eddgersley just to keep their dirty secrets under the rug. Reverend Whitcomb, well said!!!! I think the author of this article is misinformed about them being the highest paid.
Also, good luck to the quality of candidates you would get with drastically cutting their pay. Why are you not more up in arms about the crooks that are running this city into the ground??? Oops I meant politicians. Also get ready to watch them pay out Debra Eddgersley just to keep their dirty secrets under the rug.

]]> By: Reverend Whitcomb http://www.eastbayconservative.com/2009/06/09/the-beginning-of-the-end-for-oakland/comment-page-1/#comment-2798 Reverend Whitcomb Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:34:24 +0000 http://www.eastbayconservative.com/2009/06/09/the-beginning-of-the-end-for-oakland/#comment-2798 "We need a bankruptcy judge to come in not because we can’t numerically make ends meet but because our leaders will not accomplish that without some kind of adult supervision" Wow. The implicit assumption is that the bankruptcy judge will provide "adult supervision" [to the city government]. I'd just like to ask if the judges that deal with Oakland have demonstrated any success in making difficult decisions that have been successful? Is the consent decree that has hobbled OPD and the $10.5 million payment to the plaintiffs when not one officer was convicted a sign of "adult supervision"? I'd like to suggest that there is no "adult supervision" available in the bay area. This would be because the adults are out numbered. That also explains why this blog is drowned out by the non-adults of the area. “We need a bankruptcy judge to come in not because we can’t numerically make ends meet but because our leaders will not accomplish that without some kind of adult supervision”

Wow.

The implicit assumption is that the bankruptcy judge will provide “adult supervision” [to the city government].

I’d just like to ask if the judges that deal with Oakland have demonstrated any success in making difficult decisions that have been successful?

Is the consent decree that has hobbled OPD and the $10.5 million payment to the plaintiffs when not one officer was convicted a sign of “adult supervision”?

I’d like to suggest that there is no “adult supervision” available in the bay area. This would be because the adults are out numbered.

That also explains why this blog is drowned out by the non-adults of the area.

]]> By: SF2OAK http://www.eastbayconservative.com/2009/06/09/the-beginning-of-the-end-for-oakland/comment-page-1/#comment-2693 SF2OAK Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:20:56 +0000 http://www.eastbayconservative.com/2009/06/09/the-beginning-of-the-end-for-oakland/#comment-2693 What a great article about Oaktown's problems and once one recognizes the problems the solutions are more obvious. Much of east Oak is a burnt out shell- condemnation by eminent domain raze now- revitalize later. Give an incentive for retailers to locate here, make it easy to locate here instead of the onerous process that it is. I have long been a reluctant proponent of BK because Oak has screwed up so badly promises it made but now cannot keep. What a great article about Oaktown’s problems and once one recognizes the problems the solutions are more obvious.

Much of east Oak is a burnt out shell- condemnation by eminent domain raze now- revitalize later.

Give an incentive for retailers to locate here, make it easy to locate here instead of the onerous process that it is.

I have long been a reluctant proponent of BK because Oak has screwed up so badly promises it made but now cannot keep.

]]> By: dave miles http://www.eastbayconservative.com/2009/06/09/the-beginning-of-the-end-for-oakland/comment-page-1/#comment-2503 dave miles Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:49:02 +0000 http://www.eastbayconservative.com/2009/06/09/the-beginning-of-the-end-for-oakland/#comment-2503 you are about half right. police compensation is as high as it is becaue Oakland had a difficult time hiring and keeping qualified officers.However times have changed and the police have to be willing to give up their upcoming 4% raise or the city certainly will be bankrupt.By the way the current police contract was mandated through arbitration because the city and police officers association could not reach agreement. you are about half right. police compensation is as high as it is becaue Oakland had a difficult time hiring and keeping qualified officers.However times have changed and the police have to be willing to give up their upcoming 4% raise or the city certainly will be bankrupt.By the way the current police contract was mandated through arbitration because the city and police officers association could not reach agreement.

]]> By: mark ross http://www.eastbayconservative.com/2009/06/09/the-beginning-of-the-end-for-oakland/comment-page-1/#comment-2488 mark ross Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:24:55 +0000 http://www.eastbayconservative.com/2009/06/09/the-beginning-of-the-end-for-oakland/#comment-2488 I always get a thrill when I observe the shock and amazement that result when the inevitable finally happens. Oakland (and many other public sector jurisdictions) is like a profligate child who was just told that Mommy and Daddy are broke. If it were Mickey Rooney and Judy Garland they'd paint up the barn and put on a show. I just got an email bemoaning the increase in library fines, parking meter fees, etc. Chump change. I'm sure the speed trap at the bottom of Redwood Road (at California) will be back in "business." I always get a thrill when I observe the shock and amazement that result when the inevitable finally happens. Oakland (and many other public sector jurisdictions) is like a profligate child who was just told that Mommy and Daddy are broke. If it were Mickey Rooney and Judy Garland they’d paint up the barn and put on a show. I just got an email bemoaning the increase in library fines, parking meter fees, etc. Chump change. I’m sure the speed trap at the bottom of Redwood Road (at California) will be back in “business.”

]]> By: What would bankruptcy mean for Oakland? | A Better Oakland http://www.eastbayconservative.com/2009/06/09/the-beginning-of-the-end-for-oakland/comment-page-1/#comment-2487 What would bankruptcy mean for Oakland? | A Better Oakland Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:00:51 +0000 http://www.eastbayconservative.com/2009/06/09/the-beginning-of-the-end-for-oakland/#comment-2487 [...] how we might declare bankruptcy sparked a flurry of media coverage on local TV stations, the radio, blogs, and newspapers. It even caught the attention of Rush Limbaugh. The story also made some kind of [...] [...] how we might declare bankruptcy sparked a flurry of media coverage on local TV stations, the radio, blogs, and newspapers. It even caught the attention of Rush Limbaugh. The story also made some kind of [...]

]]> By: TheBoss http://www.eastbayconservative.com/2009/06/09/the-beginning-of-the-end-for-oakland/comment-page-1/#comment-2478 TheBoss Tue, 09 Jun 2009 21:25:49 +0000 http://www.eastbayconservative.com/2009/06/09/the-beginning-of-the-end-for-oakland/#comment-2478 Here's another site worth reading. It helps a great deal in laying out the ridiculousness of the pension situation: http://www.californiapensionreform.com/ Here’s another site worth reading. It helps a great deal in laying out the ridiculousness of the pension situation:

http://www.californiapensionreform.com/

]]> By: Scott Lund http://www.eastbayconservative.com/2009/06/09/the-beginning-of-the-end-for-oakland/comment-page-1/#comment-2477 Scott Lund Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:33:16 +0000 http://www.eastbayconservative.com/2009/06/09/the-beginning-of-the-end-for-oakland/#comment-2477 We can all keep an eye on how the Vallejo bankruptcy is going to see how this angle might play out. Also keep an eye on CA AB 155 which aims to hamper just such an approach. http://capoliticalnews.com/account_blog/row?_method=get&eid=1c6a224ddaa5b7dcd604133df66f456f&id=1910 Has anyone seen an example of any union agreeing to cut backs simply because it is the right thing to do? We can all keep an eye on how the Vallejo bankruptcy is going to see how this angle might play out. Also keep an eye on CA AB 155 which aims to hamper just such an approach.

http://capoliticalnews.com/account_blog/row?_method=get&eid=1c6a224ddaa5b7dcd604133df66f456f&id=1910

Has anyone seen an example of any union agreeing to cut backs simply because it is the right thing to do?

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